i have owned the cheapest set of clubs you can get jugglebug and they have suited my needs, but at the spring fling i got to play around with fitzwilly's 2 sets one dube and one higgens brothers i also got to play around with tims set all three sets flipped so much easier and faster then my own it was like i was learning all over again but anyway now that i have an income comming in again i am asking all jugglers for thier advice what set should i get dube i have been told over and over again is the best but higgens brothers are real close and cheaper but should i get european style or phatboys should i get three different colors or all the same color all advice will be appreciated

Get whatever suits your personal interests and needs. I think that any set which is of quality and proper construction is worthy. Beyond that, it is really just a matter of what the best fit is. Probably the majority of serious jugglers employ Dube. But others use different makes just as well.

Other quality choices to consider are Todd Smith and Beard:

Todd Smith Juggling Equipment - We manufacture juggling equipment and supplies! (http://www.toddsmith.com/clubs.shtml)

Beard Juggling Clubs Radical Fish Circus Euro (http://www.beard.co.uk/products.php?top_section=8)

Wow, that smith stuff looks pretty sweet.

tim i mean bottom had to go and make my decision even harder thanks tim i mean bottom

Eclipse, PX3, Renegade clubs are an option as well.

As said above, basically any set of clubs that run in the $100 range is go to be a nice club. If you plan on doing passing, I'd recommend the 3 listed above since they are among the most popular club makes and models - it's much easier to pass when everyone has a similar weight/balance make of club.

Want to learn, what ya doing with the old ones? lol

pedals you can get the same set i have for 20 bucks at jugglebug.com i think i will keep mine sentimental reasons they are good beginner clubs as i have found they flip slower then the really good ones mentioned above ok trueth be told i am too lazy to put them into a box and ship them to you to sell them to you

tim i mean bottom had to go and make my decision even harder thanks tim i mean bottom

You could have just said, "You're the top!"

Eclipse, PX3, Renegade clubs are an option as well.

As said above, basically any set of clubs that run in the $100 range is go to be a nice club.

the eclipse are only 15 bucks a piece making the set only 45 bucks i know easy math so would you still suggest them since they don't come to a $100 not trying to be a jerk but you suggested the eclipse then made a comment about price i get confussed or rather over analyze things

Sorry, I meant in addition to the ones listed.

Eclipse are indeed only $15 and are a bargain imo. They'll certainly do well for your juggling needs. If you're juggling for numbers, 7, 9, + clubs, then you'll probably want something a little more aggressive. If you're looking for a nice set of clubs that look the part, then the Eclipse will do you well. I own a set of the illuminated Eclipse clubs and they're balanced pretty well. For my every day juggling, I use a set of PX3 (because the people I pass with use them as well).

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Just a thought.

Circus Camp brings a lot of students, and by default, a lot of props so I get to play with several different makes and models.
There is no denying that certain props, clubs or otherwise, are superior to others. More often than not, a $50 clubs is better than a $30 club which is better than a $15 club. There are also some props that aren't props at all, but really toys - $7 diabolos, $15 juggling sets (balls, rings, clubs) that are pretty much useless and should be avoided.

However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with buying the most affordable quality prop. In juggling for example, take the 2 big juggling groups (IJA, WJF).

The IJA is where most of us are going to fit, whether we are actually members of it or not. Most of the card carrying members are more artistic jugglers - clowns, comedians, etc. We might make it to 5 or 6 props, but we're not likely to make any record books by juggling skill alone. Since this is true, we can buy the Eclipse club for $15 as opposed to the $40 dube' club and probably never really know the difference it truly makes.

The WJF is where the hard core numbers type of guy usually ends up and he sees juggling different than you or I do. Where you or I may juggle a few clubs,balls,rings,etc to get the attention of a crowd so that we can perform our other routines, this class of juggler is simply amazing with his props. You're going to see a dozen balls being juggled, or 9 clubs. It might not have much artistic flair but it will still be jaw dropping by simple technique. A skilled worker needs the best tools, so he's more likely to buy the $50 club because he'll most likely feel the difference.

thank you bindlestick you know for as little time as you have been a member her in the forum you jumped right in with very insightful posts and i for one have learned from them we need more members like you so thank you i belive i will go withthe eclipse and i think i will get red blue and gold since they don't have yellow most of my props are that color scheme i might even get the cigarboxes from higgins brothers at only 68 bucks at dube 96 if i remember right and they don't have yellow were higgins brothers does have a set of red blue and yellow

Cigar boxes are a blast. They're a lot of work and somewhat of an actual workout when using them. Expect some soreness in your legs and backside when first starting out, but definitely stick with them if you decide to give them a try. Much of the public will never see box jugglers, so it's a treat when they do get to see a performance.

bindlestick please go threw the old post in the juggling section you will find a video of me already doing cigar boxes

after rereading that post i might have come off as rude sorry i should have just said i can already do cigar boxes and yes they are a blast justt thinking about a new set mine are all black and everything else i juggle is red yellow and blue and would like to see if i could get a woodset of the same color scheme the ones i was looking at really had a light green but closer then black

He's pretty good at them. too! I like box juggling Scoop, did you figure out what is on the end of the boxes for traction?

no i didn't i will have to go look funny thing thought they say they are made of wood and take the beating that plastic ones can't yet at the jugglingstore.com they have a plastic set and it says will take a beating that wood ones can't lol

A variety of a great selection here http://www.jugglingstore.com/store/clubs.aspx?CategoryID=8

A variety of a great selection here Cigar Boxes (http://www.jugglingstore.com/store/clubs.aspx?CategoryID=8)

Man, what a grammatical nightmare. I don't know what I was thinking.

"Me fail English, that's umpossible" -- Ralph Wiggum

the cigar boxes at higgens brothers has black felt to cover and grip from what it says scruffy

ok i want a mattallic color on my clubs but higgins brothers px3 vegas style is out of yellow. i want red blue and yellow and dube european or phatboys doesn't even have yellow as an option.
starting to wonder if i should go with one color for all three clubs my question is if i have 3 different colors i think the audience will be able to follow at least one club and see what it is doing while having all the same would make it harder to follow any club or is this what i want does anyone feel this will be more awe inspiring to the audience?

How long before the Higgins are back in stock? I agree that it is much easier for the audience to follow what is happening when the clubs are identifible. If yellow is out what about some of the other color options? With the other companies, is yellow out of the question? What I am asking is if you called and asked them would they make a yellow special for you?

hmm not sure willhave to look into that fitz thanks for the input oh to let you know the only three colors the higgins brothers has to choose from is red blue and orange and i think the orange looks too much like the red

Can't you just get all white clubs and coat them in the color tape desired?

ok i want a mattallic color on my clubs but higgins brothers px3 vegas style is out of yellow. i want red blue and yellow and dube european or phatboys doesn't even have yellow as an option.

Dube carries yellow decoration tape in vinyl, metallic you could opt for gold. If you just get the redecoration kit stuff, it ought to cover another company's club, assuming you order the right size. Or you could just go to an arts and crafts store and get the appropriate type of trim to cut down and tape on. Dube's Airflite clubs come in colors.

i called dube they will not order yellow mettalic higgins brothers wont order for at least a month maby i will go with red blue and green or read blue and gold but i really want the mettalic not the vinyl it would look cheap to me like the ones i aleady own or wait on higgins brothers i gues i am not in taht big of a hurry thanks for your imput. hang on tim all yours is the same color may i ask why you chose to do that instead of 3 different ones like i am cause that is another choice i could make but i always go back to thinking about the audience followin along.

A variety of a great selection here Cigar Boxes (http://www.jugglingstore.com/store/clubs.aspx?CategoryID=8)

Gee, thanks...I'm trying to SAVE money for clown school...LAST thing I need is for a link to a place of 'variety of a great selection.' Lead me not into temptation, Yeah tho I walk through the Valley of Debt, I will fear no bargains....

hang on tim all yours is the same color may i ask why you chose to do that instead of 3 different ones like i am cause that is another choice i could make but i always go back to thinking about the audience followin along.

I do like how when performers use three different colors it tends to make it a little easier for an audience to follow with you.

I suppose my choice is more because I was viewing it from the standpoint of a serious juggler rather than a clown. I wanted something which made for a slick looking set which together presented a cohesive impression. I would, perhaps like to have another set in blue foil as that would make for a nice contrast when passing. All that said, the reality is that the clubs are white. Everything on top is just decoration. I have an additional set of foil and tape. I could just as easily peel off what is there and change the tape to blue, the caps to white, the body accents to whatever color I like. For a clown or a family entertainer who is just doing some basic tricks and patter interaction, I think that having three different colors presents a nice effect. But if you want to have the clubs stand out for some sharp juggling and appear a bit less bohemian, then I'd opt for a matching set. As always, it's ultimately a matter of "whatever works for you" in your own performance oeuvre.

Usually, the comment I get is "nice clubs", which is the impression I'm hoping to make.

well i would like to take my jugling to the next level but i am picking up magic and then there is the balloons not to mention having a life there just isn't enough hours in the day

Drop the having a life thing. That definitely helps you find time for all the other unimportant stuff.

Gee, thanks...I'm trying to SAVE money for clown school...LAST thing I need is for a link to a place of 'variety of a great selection.' Lead me not into temptation, Yeah tho I walk through the Valley of Debt, I will fear no bargains....

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finally i after searching and and not being able to decide and then thinking i made a choice the sites were out of a color or one site made me sign up for pay pal and then they wouldn't let the order go threw then other problems with pay pal i finnally went and looked at renegade clubs i know they were suggested by i believe bindlesticks and i liked what i found so i ordered 4 due to the fact they were only 25 dollars instead of the 39 to 42 from higgins brothers and dube i got red blue yellow and green some day i will learn 4 clubs so might as well have them on hand to try thanks everyone for the help.

ok as stated earlier i ordered new juggling clubs and got an email right away from the merchant that i made a mistake in my order and instead of just sending what i had they made sure of what i wanted by contacting me i have never had that kind of service from an online merchant like that thank you Renegade Juggling: On-line Juggling Equipment Catalog (http://www.renegadejuggling.com)

ok here they are i was practicing with them and decided to take a picture of them however it just accured to me i also have a green one but i think you can imagine how it looks
http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu202/pleton80/newclubs.jpg

Very nice Scoop.

Ok.. Its like the fourth of july for me...

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awesome my freind...cant wait for a new video featuring thiese little gems..

I love the sparkle.

So at the festival I got to experience a wide range of what people are using with their clubs. PX3s were just too different for me compared to the Dube's which I have always used. Entirely different feel. Very light.

I did get to try out some Henrys which I sort of liked. They were comparable to what I use, but a bit lighter and faster spinning. Took a little getting used to. But might be worth a try for tricks and numbers juggling. Anyone else have experience or an opinion on them?

after all my looking and finally getting the renegades and i like them fine but after the Midwest when i met jewls she said she likes the todd smith thumpers for passing also if you are the kind to be able to juggle for long periods these are nice too they have a softer handle so they are easier on your hands and they shouldn't be too different from your dube's

Hmmm... the thumpers are actually a bit heavier than mine. The Euros are comparable. My challenge at the moment is being able to do consistent doubles in work towards juggling four clubs (two in each hand.) So my thought has been that lighter might make that more manageable.

So at the festival I got to experience a wide range of what people are using with their clubs. PX3s were just too different for me compared to the Dube's which I have always used. Entirely different feel. Very light.

I did get to try out some Henrys which I sort of liked. They were comparable to what I use, but a bit lighter and faster spinning. Took a little getting used to. But might be worth a try for tricks and numbers juggling. Anyone else have experience or an opinion on them?

My experience with the Henrys is that they like to hit me in the face a lot. More so than my cheapo homemade clubs. They're also heavier, so when they hit me it hurts more. People are going to think I'm being battered at home.

Oh yeah, and I really did get a great deal on them - (thanks tim)!

You must master the clubs or the clubs will master you.

When I started Juggling the only clubs I could find were the Dube clubs, which I bought and used for almost 5 years. I still have them though they rarely get played with. About seven years ago I received 6 renegade clubs and after that I didn't look at my Dube clubs again.

I find that the renegade clubs are easier to juggle, easier to pass and are, as someone already said, more common at festivals. There is nothing wrong with Dube clubs, I have just found that renegade makes a slightly better product and I find them more fun to juggle with.

That being said. If you are just starting out with clubs go buy three plungers (approx:$3 each) and learn with those. They are potentially more clown friendly and they will help you get the general idea of club juggling without the $50-100 investment.