Instructions - Killer Whale Hat

[Fitzwilly]

Sorry folks, but due to a complaint from Ralph Dewey (a.k.a. BubbleGuy) Daniel McCullough's Killer Whale Hat can no longer be viewed here. Please follow the link if you want to see this excellent hat.

-Princess

[BubbleGuy]

Hey Fitzwilly,
Why do you have instructions on the Clown Forum for Daniel McCullough's Killer Whale Hat when you weren't given permission to use them? Please explain.

Waiting to hear your answer.
BubbleGuy

[Duckie]

I had asked a similar question of Patricia Bunnell and was told once they are put on the web, then they are out there for anyone to use. Plus Fitzy gave credit to Daniel for the work, so all is as it should be!!!!! Thanks Fitzy for taking the time to share with all of us, and thanks to Daniel for ALL his creations and generosity in sharing!!!!

[Fitzwilly]

I have been in email contact with Daniel about his improved instructions.

[BubbleGuy]

To take artwork, photos, text and other works from the Internet and then place it on your web page is not the proper thing to do. If you have their permission, then it is okay. Even in Kindergarden we were taught to not take things if they didn't belong to us. Recently the Balloon HQ email list was buzzing about a promoter in Denver using photos of balloon dresses on his web page to promote his event. A lot of people were upset about the improper use of their balloon dress photos. How would you feel if your work was taken from your web page?
BubbleGuy

[Duckie]

He didn't take them and pass them off as his own!!!!! He gave Daniel credit and also got permission!!!!!! What's the beef????? I also feel it's wrong to ATTACK someone in a public forum before you even have all the facts as to how a particular situation was handled!!!!! How would you feel if someone did that to you and you had taken all the correct steps to do things the proper way!!!!!!

[Fitzwilly]

Originally Posted by BubbleGuy

To take artwork, photos, text and other works from the Internet and then place it on your web page is not the proper thing to do. If you have their permission, then it is okay. Even in Kindergarden we were taught to not take things if they didn't belong to us. Recently the Balloon HQ email list was buzzing about a promoter in Denver using photos of balloon dresses on his web page to promote his event. A lot of people were upset about the improper use of their balloon dress photos. How would you feel if your work was taken from your web page?
BubbleGuy

BubbleGuy, First of all I have not been ignoring you. I was lecturing at the COAI convention in Virginia and in the week since I have been playing catch up, trying to keep too many balls in the air so that I might be able to afford a bit of liquid gold for mt gas tank. Secondly, this is not my site. I am simply another entertainer who found a site that I wanted to participate in. Thirdly, I in no way claim or claimed credit for the different instructions, I tried to include as much information as possible so that the correct people got credit. I posted the different instructions when a number of newer twisters were asking for advice and ideas. A number of us posted links for sites with plenty of information but for some of the more technologically challenged that still wasn't easy enough so I posted a few things here to help them out. Generally, when someone posts detailed instructions on the web it is because they have a passion to spread information so that everyone may benefit. If that person only wants a select few to see their work then the information is usually password restricted or has some dollar amount attached. If you want to think about it, very few brand new twisters or clowns or family entertainers who are just getting started in balloons have any idea where to start, they need encouragement and direction. After they have developed a bit of basic knowledge and the passion that often stems from that then they want to grow, so they start buying DVDs, books, perhaps even an old VHS tape or two, and they become a valuable asset to the twisting community, but they need that helping hand to get started.

[pixcoco]

I believe the true nature of a clown is to share. While the majority of our little world play well with others- there obviously are a few who do not.

It does not take very long to figurer out who are the nice guys are. It is not rocket science. Fitz is one of the good guys, and if you pay attention just a little bit you could see that.

I thought to myself...self, maybe I should stay quiet about this. Maybe there is more there than I know. But then, Maybe this is the place to say whatever you want to without thought or care. So I decided to give it a try.
Hhuummm, I think I do feel better now. I hope Fitz feels a little better now.

[The_Princess_of_Bozonia]

Here at Clown Forum we try to treat people the way they want to be treated. If the designer of this wonderful balloon sculpture is unhappy with it being shown here, I'll honor his wishes and take it down. If he wants a link to his site in exchange, he'll get a link. If he wants a round of applause, that can be arranged too. I find most people just want recognition that they did the work, and their peers like it.

BubbleGuy, what's your interest here? Are you the balloon artist? The photographer? The web designer? If so, what would you like to see happen here?

[Waldo]

Fitzwilly,

On behalf of all new clowns that are trying to improve, we appreciate all that you do on this forum to help us to be all that we can be. Many of us do this as a ministry and funds sometimes can be and issue, so you have been blessing to us. I certainly understand the need to protect our property, but also have complete faith and confidence that you would never do anything like that intentionally (by evidence of your permission of the author). I hope that this incident will not cause you to continue to help all us little ones in need. So on behalf of all new clowns, take one "Attaboy".

God Bless