 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
04-30-2008, 06:31 AM
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
A truly evil person would do those things with no motivation or reason. Konrad, however, based his actions majorly on the protection and happiness of his son. Besides that, he had gone through so much in one lifetime that would make any man sink to his knees. By the way, I protest your use of the word "psychotic" and the way you have attached it to the term "evil." To be psychotic means you have lost touch with reality and many psychotic people exhibit hallucinations, disorganized beliefs, and impaired social skills. To be psychotic is NOT to be evil. The catch-all phrase "psychotic" happens to run in my mothers side of the family, and two of my close cousins are classified legally as psychotic. Those two men will be the kindest men you ever meet, I promise you that. Please be considerate and think before you use that term in such a derogatory manner.
__________________
Remember that, kid. Write it down on your hand if you don't trust your head. Warning: If you don't like to think, then stay away from my posts. Last edited by Calavera : 04-30-2008 at 06:49 AM. 
|
|
04-30-2008, 06:50 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
As far as movies are concerned, I loved Tim Curry in the movie "It"; however as far as killer clowns are concerned you can't go wrong with:  It's like the greatest movie about evil clowns as you can get, I mean come on, their spaceship is a circus tent.
|
|
04-30-2008, 07:10 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Apart from scripts and ideas, you have your imitators who try to go with the "scary clown" dealie because they think it's cool...think ICP for that one. I can't stand those guys. Ooh, spooky black and white makeup! Yeah, KISS did it first. Evil clowns in scrips and ideas include: Captain Spaulding/Cutter - House of 1,000 Corpses/Devil's Rejects Buggy the Clown - One Piece Buster - Masters of Horror (We All Scream for Ice Cream) Kinko the Clown - A character in a song by Ogden Edsl Clown Gang - Akira Horrabin - The Anubis Gates Gurdy the Clown - 100 Tears Killjoy - Killjoy 1 & 2 Mr. Jingles - Mr. Jingles Just to name a few. Quote:
__________________
Remember that, kid. Write it down on your hand if you don't trust your head. Warning: If you don't like to think, then stay away from my posts. Last edited by Calavera : 04-30-2008 at 07:16 AM.
|
|
04-30-2008, 08:21 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
The human cannon ball is its very own athlete. Just like the flyer is. It is not a job that would fall to a clown.
It is possible for someone to do both jobs like Jackie LaClaire (well known clown) was also a flyer. Just like I was paramedic and a clown. Bello is another clown who came from a circus family so he also does the sway pole. Most circus acts are pasted down thru the family. The cannon has a platform inside the performer stands on. And Fitz is right...it is done by spring mechanisum or commpressed air. They will set off a charge at the same time just for effect. It is a very dangerous trick. Veterens have been serverly injured do this.
|
|
04-30-2008, 08:21 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Go, go, JohnnyBoy write!
Write, write, JohnnyBoy write!
__________________
Some people walk in the rain, others just get wet. Roger Miller
|
 The following clown laughed out loud at Grandpa Weatherbie's funny post:
|
||
|
04-30-2008, 11:04 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
<<I have decided to make the characters not really 'evil' but pretty much badass tough people with a crazy (in a good way) sense of humour.>>
This is workable. Though I have to agree with others that is is more carnie than clown... circus clowns are tough but it would be difficult to put them in a situation where they would be gangsterish even in a noble way. What you might could do if you really wanted to have fun is have a couple of wronged mobsters hiding out with the circus as clowns. Make it sort of like Sister Act but with clowns instead of nuns. Do it right and you could have all sorts of interesting fun with out sacrificing (like everyone else) the virutes of the art of clowning, and still have your darker twist with it through the mobsters who have learned a few things from their new clown friends. I can just picture a couple of mobster hit men trying to find their inner clown character, without giving themselves away to those who are looking for them with the help of some vetran circus clowns. It makes me smile... Either way Grandpa Weatherbie is right... write... wright!
__________________
Snugglesnort the Rhymer. "Humor is the only test of gravity, and gravity of humor; for a subject which will not bear raillery is suspicious, and a jest which will not bear serious examination is false wit." -- Aristotle
|
 The following 3 clowns say thank you to Snugglesnort for this great post:
|
||
|
The following clown laughed out loud at Snugglesnort's funny post:
|
||
|
04-30-2008, 11:19 AM
|
||||
|
||||
Evil vs. Psychotic
Quote:
People generally classify distasteful behavior that they don't agree with as evil. And in many cases this is understandable. A black and white view makes the call of good or evil a fairly straightforward event. Psychotic on the otherhand has become a catchall phrase similar to schizophrenia was a few years ago. Whereas schizo generally was used to mean just plain crazy, psychotic is usually joined with negative social behavior. In part this is understandable because without the standard mental controls and limitations people generally have they, the psychotics, occasionally act in ways that if performed by a person in relatively healthy mental state (although if a person is mentally healthy would they perform similar actions?) would be labeled as evil. Okay Cal. this is a start and we can go from here. Plenty of generalizations made and some gaps in the thought process, but...
|
|
The following clown says thank you to Fitzwilly for this great post:
|
||
|
04-30-2008, 11:42 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Yes, the term "psychotic" has become twisted into something that is synonymous with evil, and I wish that wasn't the case. If you are psychotic, that doesn't automatically make you evil and vice versa. My cousin often complains to me that people think that he's dangerous just because he's on anti-psychotics. What those people didn't see was his fear and suffering before he was given help. He was 20 before he was committed to a psych ward. He was there, not because he had tried to hurt someone, but because he tried to commit suicide in order to make the voices stop talking to him. Another thing that they don't seem to grasp is the fact that being on anti-psychotics doesn't make you unstable...it makes you stable. My cousin is not crazy, his brain is just wired differently and he has never even thought about hurting anyone. One thing that surprises me is that people use a word that describes being out of touch with reality and apply it to evil people. People with severe autism are also out of touch with reality and are sometimes classified as psychotic, yet nobody calls the autistic community on that. Besides all of those facts, how could someone condemn a psychotic person for the way they were born? They didn't have a choice, that's how they were formed. Evil people have a choice to be evil or not. I think that there are many misconceptions about the psychotic community, chiefly due to willful ignorance. These people are no different than you or me other than the fact that they have a problem with their brain activity. Being psychotic has NOTHING to do with wicked acts, I cannot stress that enough. Yes, people who are psychotic have killed, but people from all walks of life have killed. If you want to equate psychotics with being evil, then you must be fair and equate evil with firemen, teachers, clerks, and even clowns.
__________________
Remember that, kid. Write it down on your hand if you don't trust your head. Warning: If you don't like to think, then stay away from my posts. Last edited by Calavera : 04-30-2008 at 11:46 AM.
|
|
The following 2 clowns say thank you to Calavera for this great post:
|
||
|
04-30-2008, 12:44 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I don’t get it….. If you don’t know anything about clowns, then what is your motivation for writing a novel that puts clowns in a bad light? If you want to write a good novel, then write about something that actually has meaning to you. You need to be inspired and intrigued about your subject and have an underlying passion for the root of the story.
It sounds to me like you have assumed people want to read about murderous clowns without actually researching your target audience. My advice, go back to the drawing board, think about something you actually know and love and let your mind fill up with inspired ideas that people will actually want to read about. To be a successful clown you need to do it for all the right reasons, and to be a successful novelist you also need to be doing it for the right reasons – Think about why you want to write this novel.
|
|
The following clown says thank you to milo for this great post:
|
||
|
04-30-2008, 01:19 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
Remember that, kid. Write it down on your hand if you don't trust your head. Warning: If you don't like to think, then stay away from my posts.
|