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Welcome Plum!
I too, am new to clowning. You'll find all the information you need here(and then some).



Btw Bips, was the "just wish the doggone photo gallery was working, and the THURS CHAT was back" a hint to Dave by any chance?
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Welcome hollywood!

Here are the books you need

Creative Clowning by bruce Fife, Tony blanco
How to be a clown by turk Pipin
Strutters complete guide to clown makeup by Jim Roberts

If magic is also an interest, then Add Clown Magic by David Ginn

If you only want to spring for one, then Get creative clowning. an excellent book that covers the basics including puppetry, balancing, juggling, makeup, even the business side of being a party clown.
I checked out your website. Nice work! Do you ever do custom foam work? I have an Idea for a golf club. Should be a good skit when I get it figured out.
Again, Welcome!
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Scruffy and friends
Thank you for the nice welcome. I will definately check out the books to add to my growing libary of puppetry books.
I can do custom work but primarily teach teachers, youth leaders, libary assistance the art of puppetry and how to build a puppet. I will be glad to work with you on your golf club idea you can also visit the public forum all those guys will give you great ideas to help you with your project. http://www.puppetsandstuff.com You may know the site administrator Wildjoker
You can e-mail me or use msn messenger or yahoo if you need to get in touch with me. My name is Billy but hollywood is going to be my clown name.
Quick question before I use this name do I have to check a national registry to see if this name is allready taken. I realize that people do use clowning as a source of income and others for fun. I just want to follow the correct protocol.
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Welcome, Hollywood!

I don't think you have to worry about the clown name unless there
is already a "Hollywood" in your area where you would be directly
competing.

I would also avoid the big-name obvious ones like "Ronald McDonald"
or "Bozo" -- those would get you in trouble for sure.

But I'm sure there are many clown names that are duplicated across
the country and around the world. Just be sensitive to established
clowns in your marketing area.

And the same goes with makeup -- don't copy another clowns face.
Odds are, it wouldn't work for you anyway. Instead, use YOUR face
as the canvas and use makeup to emphasize YOUR expressions and
facial features.

I've said this in other threads - remember that makeup isn't a mask
to hide behind, but was traditionally (and still is!) used to help convey
expression to the back of the room before there were microphones and
sound systems and such.

Clowns are just "live-action" puppets in a lot of ways. Or, my friend likes
to say that we're live cartoon characters. Use a lot of motion -- animate,
animate, animate!

Be sure to look at and use the books that Scruffy recommends - you may
even find them in your local library.
And feel free to post questions here - there's a lot of help to be found.

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Welcome hollywood! Sorry I missed you in my last post. :lol:
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Hollywood;

I don't think so. If you started using Ronald, or Shakes, orBozo, It could cause a problem. But, it's not uncommon for a prson to meet another person with the same first name, so why not clowns too?

I know there are other Scruffy's out there, But "we" don't have the same personalities. Just like people!
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Welcome! Ashes & Jamz2 give great advice! The tip I have is to be careful on your advertising! I got myself into a bind when I started my business years ago. I was talked into the biggest, most colorful yellow pages ads on the planet! Then all sorts of other advertising to boot! Before I knew it, my overhead, business expenses, were over my head! I would NEVER make enough money to support thousands of dollars a month in my advertising costs! I am now advertising at a minimum and making a profit! Just like you want to do! So consider when what to charge, how much do you need to cover your expenses? Make up, costume, GAS, electricity, supplies, advertising, and most improtantly, YOUR TIME! You are valuable and your time is priceless! Saphire Sue is correct in that you do need to make sure you are charging according to what other clowns in your area charge. If you really undercut them, you'll make enemies fast! If you overprice, you won't get any business! I learned that the hard way to! Where was the forum when I needed it? Read the books Scruffy suggests! Have fun a Clown Fest! I went years ago! Wish I could go this year! Take a notebook!!!
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Great post, PremierSparkles!

I think that we should start a topic: The Business Side Of Clowning --

It's one thing to put on the makeup and entertain - we all do that because
we love it. But trying to make a go of it as a business, well, that is where
it is "burn and learn" so to speak -- learn from your mistakes.

If we could help others learn from our mistakes before they make the
same ones, maybe it would help move them down the road with fewer
bumps.

Just a thought!

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